14. What 101 Countries Teach Us About Creating Values with Dr. Mandeep Rai

Dr. Mandeep Rai is an international best-selling author, speaker, and broadcast journalist. She is the author of The Values Compass: What 101 Countries Teach Us About Purpose, Life and Leadership, which details how to incorporate values from other nations into your own life. She began her career working for JPMorgan, the United Nations, the European Commission, and grassroots NGOs before setting up the UAE’s first media venture capital fund. Dr. Rai studied philosophy, politics, and economics (PPE) at the University of Melbourne, has an MSc in development from the London School of Economics, an MBA at London Business School, with a year at Harvard Business School and MIT, and she holds a PhD in global values.

Through her extensive travels (185 countries, and counting!), Dr. Rai came to the conclusion that each country has a core value. For example, the United States is characterized by entrepreneurship, Canada by openness, South Africa by forgiveness, and Mexico by celebration. The book is equal parts travel guide, foreign language class, and history lesson all told through the lens of vivid, vibrant stories. In our conversation, Dr. Rai explains how she came up with the five primary values and shares a preview of a tool she’s developing to help readers narrow down their own values. 
We also touch on daily practices for heart-centering and tapping into your own energy. Dr. Rai is a deeply spiritual person and connected with her community, and she shares a charity that is near and dear to her. The Jaskomal Foundation is about bringing awareness and education in regards to stem cell transplants and increasing the donor registration list. Listen to today’s episode to hear our conversation about The Values Compass and more.

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Topics Covered:

  • Notable leaders who have endorsed Dr. Rai’s work, including His Holiness the Dalai Lama

  • How Dr. Rai makes every morning a ‘miracle morning’ 

  • Looking at countries through their relationship to change, continuity, connection, community, and core values 

  • Dr. Rai’s go-to practices for finding and discovering values so that you’re always operating as your authentic self 

  • How Dr. Rai is working to build more awareness about the importance of understanding national values

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[00:00:00] Anne O'Neil: Hey, hey GB. LERs welcome to get busy living a podcast that brings inspiring people together to discover what ignites them to be bigger than themselves. I'm your host Anne. O'Neil. With 41 countries stamped in my passport. I considered myself a world traveler until I met Dr. Mandy rye. She's traveled over 180 countries and wrote a book based on country values called the values compass.

And this book has been endorsed by the Dai Lama and Deepak Chopra. Enjoy the dialogue. As we start off talking about spirituality, we have these colorful Buddhas and Worling DBER statues that were present in our zoom backgrounds. And then we dive into how values are dynamic, endless, and pull us forward towards the life that we want to have and create.

Well, actually, that's a great place to get kicked off because you know, I'd love to hear where you're recording from, especially a world traveler all over. And yes. Talk a little bit about your name so we can all pronounce it. Right. And everyone can find you while they're listening to the recording or afterwards of the podcast to be able to find you.

And just to get to know you a little 

[00:01:22] Dr. Mandeep Rai: bit more. Okay. Hi everyone. So my official name, as in on the book is. Doctor Mande Ry or Mandy Ry. My full name is doctor Mande. So that's the name that my parents gave me is a seek call is the name that every seek female has and every seek male has the name sing S I N G H.

Ry is the name that my father. Uh, from my father's family and Dylan is the name from my husband's family. Now, the reason all seek females and all seek males, have the name core and sing is because actually it shouldn't matter which family you are born into, or you know, that you are part of one brotherhood or sisterhood and neither.

Your cast or your class or your kind of background should make any difference. It was all about equality and I can, and utterly appreciate that. So, yeah, it's one of the most, it's one of the many, many, many things that is so beautiful, uh, about the, uh, it be, uh, about kind of the progressive faiths. Where values like equality or justice or standing up for the underdog or compassion or empathy or all these type of values come up again and again, and it's not just in that these values come up, they come up in, you know, every faith in every spiritual discipline and indeed in.

I believe in good schools and wherever humanity is trying to be its best. And I think actually human life form and actually life form is always trying to evolve into its best self 

[00:03:19] Anne O'Neil: way to kick off the, the conversation that is just so true. And to be able to have that be a part of your name, the language and words mean so much, you know, and that when I was listening to your.

And I'd love to get into that because this is gonna be one of the main things that we talk about, cuz it, it does span your entire career as well. And it's the values compass what 101 countries teach us about purpose, life and leadership. And so all of these countries are broken down into one value and the language here is just profound.

It was, it was amazing. And also each of the countries are in bite size. I thought it was. Going on a history lesson, it was a foreign language class. It was a trip around the world. I mean, there, it was just so much packed into this incredible book. So let's go back to your career and you know, all of the journalism that you did with the BBC and then how you went through all these different countries to create the values compass and just what an incredible experience that must have been to travel to all these different countries.

[00:04:27] Dr. Mandeep Rai: Sure I do have this urge of wanting to mirror what your background looks like with my Budha behind me. yes. Yes. In front of me and I have this room, put it behind me so that it mirrors yours. Oh, you have a Budha in front of you. I have a bud I room shirt. I go and show 

[00:04:47] Anne O'Neil: you show. Yes. Yes. Show me, I love that.

So everyone listening, I have a very colorful, uh, Buddha and a heart picture that is behind me in my office. And I know that, you know, maybe you've seen a little bit of it on social media, but you know, it helps me stay centered and I'd love, you know, what the Buddhism represents of enlightenment and peace and meditation.

And the heart is actually there very similar to, um, Dr. Mandy Ray about. The heart is your compass. And, oh my gosh. She, she is showing me the most beautiful colored Buddha as well. She is so peaceful. 

[00:05:26] Dr. Mandeep Rai: Indeed it, um, so, you know, since we are talking about spirituality, yes let's in, and you might have noticed that his holiness, the Dai Lama endorsed the book and, uh, and the work.

And I think that's because it encompasses, like we said, all those values that are so that are in all of us, it's like, we're a treasure trove. And so equanimity or peace or patience or. I mean, it's a choice. 

[00:05:57] Anne O'Neil: Mm-hmm, , it's almost like that energy space where you get to choose, you know, how you respond to something, because I always think of these Buddhas of if I go inward and it creates that space to respond in a powerful way, you know, and it, that both of them are just so beautiful 

[00:06:15] Dr. Mandeep Rai: and sometimes we can do little kind of grounding exercises that help us do exactly that.

For example, if you are. When you're responding instead of responding from a place of, let's say anger or fear, if you can truly kind of heart centered, it sometimes helps to put your hand just there. Or if you want to kind of change your frame or way of thinking, sometimes there's this kind of sphere of influence your sphere of influence in your energy changes just by putting yourself into a place where you feel truly comfortable or happy.

If you think of a time. When, you know, you are really ecstatic or your best self yourself back there. And then, uh, if I ask you for example, to hold your thumb out, okay. Almost draw a circle, a line behind it. So take it all the way back. I'm doing it. Then if you take a few moments and think close your eyes, and you think of a truly like blissful time for yourself, a time when you were truly happy and.

It's a precious time, a time that you often invoke whenever you want to feel grateful, or you invoke as like a, one of your highlights and then really to feel that. And if you were to draw that circle around you again, Your thumb would end up in a different place. Just that sphere of influence changes just from that.

Just your energy field changes just from that. 

[00:07:41] Anne O'Neil: Oh my gosh. You know, I didn't know that we were going to have such a great conversation about spirituality and that was just so beautiful. I'm I'm gonna hit the wall, but I I'm going to try that when we finish the conversation. So is there a. That you use on a daily basis.

I mean, especially through all your travels to do that heart centered work and, you know, being in your own energy space, I think 

[00:08:04] Dr. Mandeep Rai: every, every morning should be a little bit of a miracle morning. If you can make it. And small practices, I have such as I will not eat or drink without the sun salutation. I found the energy of the sun or the energy of mother.

Guyo the energy of the earth to be integral to all the. Whether it's CISM, you see it as integral in, in all the most ancient and current. So hence in yoga, it comes up and it, and the fact is that because the sun has risen and your eyes, you know, open to wake up every morning with that sense of. Wow. Wow.

And in my faith, insi, we say the word wa, which is like, wow, almost like a, like a, like your breathing in is all inspiring. Like your breathing in brace and gratitude and, and like the good's blessings almost. Yeah. With your own, that's how it would start and how. Actually every one of your breaths should not be wasted.

Every one of your breaths should be just like that. This has been the most. And my podcast generally, a business leadership or this is like, yeah, but it just spirituality, which I haven't normally ever done. So, 

[00:09:31] Anne O'Neil: uh, no, I'm so grateful for this moment and I know you're getting to know me as well. So I, I meditate every single day.

I've been doing a practice. And you heard a little bit about me before about playing basketball. And it, it, when I used to go to the gym and shoot, it would be a practice of flow and there wouldn't be thoughts. You know, I was just being one with the ball and I've been able to find that through meditation, you know, through walking meditations.

And I'm not sure if you're familiar with Dr. Joe benzo's work or if you've ever been to any of his. Week, long retreats. I've gone to like three in the past year and they've been transformative for centering creating, being in gratitude. And it's, it's just been an amazing new element that I've been searching for ever since I, you know, finished being an athlete.

So I, so anytime. I can talk about it. I'm super excited. So it has come up a few times on the, on the show and I'm so grateful that you were able to bring that up. I, I will need that word though and make sure I type that out into the show notes and everything like that. So we can 

[00:10:35] Dr. Mandeep Rai: have that. What is your practice in the morning, night?

Okay. 

[00:10:38] Anne O'Neil: So, yeah, so in the morning I, I wake up and I go, I live in Miami and I go to the beach. So I drive over it's about 10 minute drive over the bay, and then I watch the sunrise. And it's so amazing because you talked about the, the sun being kind of the center. And as the sun rises, all of these birds, like everything starts to come alive.

The waves get bigger. Birds are more active and I'm like, you know, that is a compass right there. And so I watched the sun come up and then I actually put on, oh my blinders, you know, kind of over my head and my headphones. And then I'll listen to a meditation. The first 15 minutes is all about breath, work, you know, breathing all the way through your body, all the way up, you know, out into, you know, the energy field.

And so that's about the first 15 minutes of the walking meditation. And then the piece of the walking meditation says, all right now go. And it's extremely empowering. The, the language the music picks up. And so then I'm walking, but I'm, I'm walking almost in this trance of gratitude and creating a future state that I wanna be.

And so I notice things like believes and the flowers and the sun's still coming up and it's just such a beautiful thing. So that is like my number one routine for the morning. So it's about at 45 minutes to an hour long, but. My day and trajectory is completely transformed just by being, and seeing how big the world is and you know, how much I can be a part of the, the gratitude that that's there.

So, yeah, that's my practice 

[00:12:06] Dr. Mandeep Rai: does that come from Joe dispenser's work? 

[00:12:08] Anne O'Neil: Yeah. So that, that particular walking meditation one is, but that you can put on into your headphones, but I also do other ones that are just, you know, breath work, uh, you know, From different, uh, gurus and people that have studied, you know, whether it's yoga or, you know, transcendental meditation, I'm willing to try it all.

I mean, sometimes I grew up Catholic and I would just, when I was a kid, which is kind of a funny story, but, and I was a kid, I used to just go into the, the church just to be around the, um, stain glass windows. And like when all of the candles were lit. And so it wasn't as much about the exact writings and, um, Uh, things that were in the Bible, but I liked being in the energy space of what that represented that there was something bigger out there to believe in.

And that was, I was an Irish Catholic Umar server. So yeah. So it's a lot of those things. I also was gonna show you, this is also behind me, but it's hard to see, but it's a little dancing dervish from Turkey, kind of like roomy. I do. You have 

[00:13:10] Dr. Mandeep Rai: one too. Um, not a figure a picture. Oh 

[00:13:15] Anne O'Neil: my gosh. Yeah. I was gonna say so when I, I see, yeah, there you go.

He, and he can dance. So that was he's right in front of the Buddha and the heart right back here. But he is really tiny to see. 

[00:13:27] Dr. Mandeep Rai: Okay. Since we're on it, shall I go and show you that too? That be the last yes. 

[00:13:30] Anne O'Neil: Yes, of course. 

[00:13:34] Dr. Mandeep Rai: so you see, this is why I need to put this on YouTube, the whole video.

Where are I? I trying to see where my pictures have gone. We just had the room painted. Um, 

[00:13:49] Anne O'Neil: it's beautiful. And what town are you in again? Bendon. If you guys heard her earlier, she said the Dai Lama wrote about the values compass book. And I do have it in front of me while she's getting the dancing dervish, which is from Turkey.

And we'll get into that. If you know the poet roommate, that's what she's. I have one behind me, a little statue. When I went on a trip to Turkey and she's grabbing one of hers as well. So this has turned into quite the meditation, spiritual practice conversation so far, but this book is awesome too. So let me read you what the Dali Lama wrote.

He says the value compass takes us into the hearts, minds and traditions of the cultures and people of the world. It demonstrates how interconnected we are and how the divisions that exist between us stem, from acting. With narrow self-interest rather than concern for the good of our human family. I hope that the book will contribute to making our world a happier place.

That is what the Dalai Lama wrote about Dr. Mandy rise, the values compass. So, uh, and like I mentioned before, she went to 101 countries she's actually traveled to over 150 total. And a lot of this happened while she was working. As a journalist for the BBC . And even though I'm kind of just, uh, riffing, I, you guys are gonna hear a little bit more about her, so she also has an incredible brilliant education spanning so many different schools.

So we're looking at London business school, Harvard, MIT. Her career actually started off in finance and venture capitalism before jumping into journalism. So after we talk about roommate, maybe we'll get into that. So, all right. Let's see, we now we're bringing out all the different spiritual things. Okay.

I'm ready for it. 

[00:15:40] Dr. Mandeep Rai: we know this, right? It's because you have the heart behind you that I've bought this. I think. Stairs, um, the whirling dervish, before we finish, either someone will come down or I will go up and get it. But, uh, 

[00:15:54] Anne O'Neil: oh, I love that. Yes, there's, there's so many symbols out there to help remind us of what a great world and how much peace and gratitude there can be.

And, and goodness, just kind of like the Dai Lama just said about your book. So I don't know if you heard me. I, I read a little bit about the Dai Lama of what he said. And I would love for you to kinda share again how you have this amazing educational and brilliant background from various different universities that I just mentioned, and then got into journalism and basically transforming the world with all of your travels and what you were able to find through the values compass.

So let's get a little bit into that and then we can go into the. 

[00:16:35] Dr. Mandeep Rai: Okay. Well, I would say that, look you, you mentioned the countries, there's now maybe ever 185 countries that I've traveled. Oh, right. Oh my gosh. Either traveled or worked in experienced. I, I would say that in each and every case, it's never just traveling through.

It's always, almost like being a poorest, a poorest rock. Absorb, you almost want to become one with where you are in order to really feel it sense it and, um, taste the best of it. You know, I, my parents always taught me to see the best in people and you extend that a little bit further and you can see the best in places and see the best in best in.

In, you know, all that you experience. So I think that's why this for example, is the Japanese version and they actually went many steps further than I did. And like the, each vignette, for example, this is VIR and self expression will have country facts in it'll be underlining, you know, different, um, things we need to know.

About each and every place even added extra pictures, et cetera. And this is because they wanted. For every country that was then being represented in the, or is being represented in the Olympics. And very soon we'll be experiencing in a month or so the Commonwealth games that we celebrate each and every place on the planet.

And that's exactly why the book has been written, that we celebrate each and every person, all of our strengths, all of our attributes, you wanted to know about my education. And I would say. What to tell you there's a, there was this moment that I start off at the beginning of the book where my mother said, you've got a place at Oxford.

Who's gonna marry you. If you become that educated wow. Firstly, I shouldn't have to dumb myself down or limit myself in order to be marriage materials. Very Jane Austin, more importantly, a. I think it gave me the thirst to be the very, to reach my potential reach my fullest potential. Now, is that ever possible?

Maybe never. Maybe it's all you are always. Striving or aiming for a little further. And every time you're wanting to grow a little more and growth is definitely one of my key values. And I think that's, what's kind of helped me strive academically, but it's not just academically. It's all kinds of growth.

Right? Travel helps you grow or moving helps you grow. Spirituality helps you grow certain people, people who think differently to you help you grow. All these different modalities that we've mentioned help you grow. So growth is in many, many technology helps you grow growth, comes forms, but I think if you appreciate growth, you won't limit yourself from any of that.

You are really relish it and experience it and throw yourself into it again. And again, and again, for a, hopefully it almost feel as though you're either going forwards or backwards. I'm not sure you're ever it is. So possible to be stationary. And so therefore that upward or forward momentum takes a little bit of effort and a little bit of stepping out of your comfort zone each and every time 

[00:20:02] Anne O'Neil: each and every time and every day.

And I loved how you spoke about all those different perspectives that you can grow from. And that is it's funny because I did listen to your book and I did the values and one of my values is growth as well. I'm like. I just wanna continue to see what's actually possible. What's what, what can we create out here?

And I mentioned it before, but the, one of the pillars here on this podcast is about growth mindset. And so it's what, what's the best that can happen and what can we possibly create? And that's exactly what you you're talking about and what so much of these things represent, values, represent that and, and the travel as well.

What I loved about learning about the values compass. Was that you said there are there four primary points and I'd love for you to speak a little bit on how you came up with the change values, the continuity connection and communal values. I'd love to hear how you chose those four seeds. Well, 

[00:21:02] Dr. Mandeep Rai: if we even just look at.

The contents, but actually the content says a lot about the book. So for example, change values, they are the values that help you change or grow in, in that, for example, education we've just been speaking about education is right there. Compromise is there because it helps you change. Dynamism or diplomacy.

Yes. Problem solving helps you change. And, and of course, entrepreneurship is kind of like having to pivot and pivot to pivot and change and adapt. 

[00:21:37] Anne O'Neil: Yes. And that, and that value, cuz I wanted to make sure for the listeners, we have a lot of listeners here in the United States that actually came from the United States value was entrepreneurship.

And so a couple other ones that you might be familiar with Canada was openness. South Africa, forgiveness, England steadfastness. And I, I did love Mexico cuz a lot of the Americans are familiar with Mexico with celebration. So you can go through each country and find their value. And it's just, again, an amazing compilation of being a travel guide, a foreign language class, a history lesson.

Like you can listen to this over and over and it's like, you've actually just stamped your passport 101 times. 

[00:22:21] Dr. Mandeep Rai: Yeah. And I think the, the aim, for example, with Mexico, since you've mentioned it mm-hmm is, is to think what would my life be like if I bought that level of celebration into it? You know, if I wasn't just going to work in order to make money in order to live, et cetera, et cetera.

If I actually, every day. As, as in Mexico, it can feel like every day there's a reason to celebrate. He'd lived like that. How would our life be different? Would you perhaps prefer life, any load of extract, just to get you kind of thinking about it, the shades, the smells, the sounds, the sights, the celebration.

When you arrive in Mexico and your thrust into your first Fiesta, it can feel as though it's like the once in a lifetime opportunity and. Every evening 

[00:23:09] Anne O'Neil: yes. And, and you realize they're celebrating all the time. 

[00:23:11] Dr. Mandeep Rai: all the time. And whether it's trades or dance or song or food, why shouldn't we celebrate in just that way?

I'm, I'm paraphrasing now, but I want us to like, think about what would our life be like if it doesn't have to be just the Mexican culture of celebration. And that makes it in an intoxicating place to visit. It's the fact that we could all learn from that way of living. And I think that each and every, the point of all these values is that we then discover our core values, what really matters to us and bring those values into our life.

So this is all those, it's all those things you mentioned, actually, it's a business leadership book to help you. Be the very best version of yourself to bring out what motivates you most. What makes you light up and bring, you know, 250% of yourself in. 

[00:24:05] Anne O'Neil: Absolutely. I, I loved that section of the book too. So for the listeners, how do you help them go about discovering your values in a, in, you know, since they're gonna be listening to the podcast, how can they kind of do one of the practices of finding and discovering values?

So then your life choices get to be made. You know, coming from those values is really what has transformed for me. So I'd love for you to just kind of chat about that a little bit. So, you know, they can at least start writing some down and, and discovering it for themselves. 

[00:24:37] Dr. Mandeep Rai: Okay. So firstly, the book takes you through that process, but I'm also creating a kind of a.

Another instrument. So if you would, but even if I were to mention some values to you now, you will easily be able to think, ah, yeah, that really is important to me or that isn't and the tool helps you gravitate towards what is and what isn't really easily, almost instinctively and intuitively. And. You just act immediately, like whenever I say the word and kind of almost say yes or no, the more accurate actually is likely to be, don't put thought into this.

So for example, if I say the word humor, you know, to be funny, . Have humor or to enlighten life with humor or to break a situation down with humor or to just let it go with humor. How important, you know, can that be? And actually humor can save the human condition. Like it really, it's such a key touchstone.

It's such a key point that much of, I wanna say all, but a lot of like stress and anxiety and everything can actually be. the pressure can be taken out of it quite quickly with humor. Mm mm. 

[00:25:52] Anne O'Neil: I love that. What a great one to choose as well, because you know, people might be thinking of very serious values, but humor is a great one because it actually really is something that we want to have throughout our day.

And so to be able to have that language and that visualization the journey through these 101 countries is so vibrant. And vivid because of the storytelling that you, that you share like that. So it's, it's just phenomenal. I've really, really enjoyed the, the way to look at that. And I loved how you talked about the values right there of not overthinking it.

Like, you know, does that feel warm when I say that word, you know? Yes or no, you know, and you kind of just lean into how that word feels for you and if that's something, you know, I think there's always that inner work. We went all the way back to, through our spirituality, that inner work, that kind of you lean and pull yourself forward to some of those values, which is, is amazing.

It's really incredible. 

[00:26:48] Dr. Mandeep Rai: It literally will change what your minute, hour, day looks like, how you divide it between different aspects of your life, how, how you bring in the elements that are important, maybe right in the get go. Right? First thing in the morning, mm-hmm , mm-hmm health is important. It might shape the way your day is right at the beginning.

You might eat differently. You might exercise immediately. You might do that. Breathwork you were talking about, or if positivity or the trajectory you were talking about is important, or if indeed work or excellence is important, what do you spend? The four first four hours or few hours doing? And there's so much comes out of just being proactive in choosing values, which doesn't take long.

But it's very, very revealing. And actually it's really revealing in terms of the career you then do or how you practice that career or where you invest. Mm mm-hmm. Not just your, your time, but also your money, how you are with your family. Is that 

[00:27:48] Anne O'Neil: something you want to create from this book? Or maybe you're already in the process of it, like you, you briefly went over it with the Olympics.

So, you know, you can definitely bring that back in, but also with big corporations or even education, how do you see yourself? You know, teaching the world about the values compass and, and again, what of us centering it is to make decisions from, so where, where is next for you on the, on the growth path, which also goes back to your value?

[00:28:14] Dr. Mandeep Rai: Yes. Working with companies, which I do do already or countries, um, um, one of the founding members of the V 20, which sits alongside the G 20. As we'll be meeting in Indonesia later in the year on the 20th and the 21st of October alongside the G 20. There's a lot to be said for bringing in values, right at the top or today example, I interviewed the secretary general of the Commonwealth and we were talking about, okay, so what are these common values?

And. There are countries even wanting to join the Commonwealth, even though they weren't part of the Commonwealth. Like there's a sense of, you know, really wanting to stand for something greater than yourself to be stronger together. Mm mm-hmm definitely taught us that. Right. It doesn't work when we're in competition when with each other, it works when we collaborate with one another and then we truly can be safer, strong.

Better versions. So I think the, the scope and the, and the, uh, spheres of influence are almost endless. I look forward to people reaching out and us creating together 

[00:29:28] Anne O'Neil: endless is, is right, because the values are going to be there throughout your entire life. They might, you know, change or transform a little bit their dynamic, for sure, but you're always going to be.

Creating and making choices based off of those values. So yes, you're right. They are, this is absolutely endless. And you mentioned right there, which is the main tagline for the podcast, which is I'm talking to people to discover what ignites them to be bigger than themselves. And you just mentioned that, that you had that in that conversation.

And so. I know when we spoke earlier, you have so many charities and nonprofits. I can't even imagine how many you've seen in all these 180 plus countries. So maybe touch upon a couple of them. That really mean a lot to you that, you know, you've been able to give some of your time or learn about throughout your experiences.

[00:30:20] Dr. Mandeep Rai: I really am grateful for this question because giving is. Almost more important than, uh, than receiving I think anything that's received it's then pay it forward. Give it on. I remember that a Lama also telling me that if I knew, he said, if you knew and I've lived as if I do know, since he said it, if you knew the power of sharing your meal, you'd never let another meal go and shared again of sharing or the power of giving.

And again, in every faith, it's very. Critical to give at least 10%, right? Whether it's tithing or whether it's Zak in Islam, tithing in Christianity or Wanski, or in every faith has its own version of giving. I think it's almost the. The seed, another seed or seedling. And so yes, there have been many, many, many, many, not for profits that, that we give to and have come up in our journey and have come up deliberately.

Right? Whatever your things will come up, according to where you are. And what's the need of the hour. One that is very close to my heart is the just Gomel foundation, because the just, just Gomel is a cousin, sister of mine who passed. Just in her early twenties and her life, although it was a form of cancer really could have been, her death could have been prevented if Asian people were willing to give more of their donate, more like, you know, stem cell research, given their, you know, take a swab from their cheek.

And see if they're a match and see if they can give just that, putting yourself on the Don list. Mm-hmm, , that's a small thing to do, but it's literally could save someone's life without taking anything from you. Again, it's that power of sharing. It doesn't take anything, but it saves and prevents loss of lives.

Once you lose someone close to you, you almost never want that same mistake to happen to for anyone else. Again, that's so beautiful. 

[00:32:23] Anne O'Neil: The foundation is give hope a future. And the foundation is about bringing awareness and education in regards to stem cell transplants and increase the donor registration list.

And so, you know, like Dr. Mande RA just said, It can just be about signing up, you know, it doesn't have to be giving, and I know we've talked on this podcast before, but even just sharing about a nonprofit like that might just influence one person or make a change on one social media post, where you get the awareness out there.

And then when you have awareness, Then the next step is there's an awareness for change where you can actually, you know, create a positive change out there. So, well, wow. I've, I've enjoyed this conversation so much. I know that I have gone over our time. How would you like to leave everyone? You wanna let them know where to find your book or where to follow you?

Where is best to follow you? 

[00:33:18] Dr. Mandeep Rai: Sure. So you should be able to, you can find the book in any good bookstore, any bookstore, just ask for it. Yes. Course. There's the ubiquitous Amazon. And, uh, you can find it in many different languages, but also especially English. And if it's not in the language that you wish it to be in, please let us know and we will make that happen.

and then you can please reach out to us almost on every single social media platform. I probably respond best on LinkedIn just because, uh, I find those messages easier to receive than, uh, but we're everywhere. Whether it be Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, et cetera. 

[00:33:56] Anne O'Neil: Okay. Wonderful. Well, the values compass again, I was able to listen to it on audible and it's actually Dr.

Mandeep speaking the book and it is beautiful. So you get to hear her amazing London accent. It sounds like an accent for Americans anyway. And then also it's uh, like if she said on Amazon different bookstores and I can't recommend it enough, if you. Love to travel, want to, you know, explore the world, even just through reading, but really, you know, if you're really creating your values from a profound space and opening your eyes and your world and perspective to new ways of a new language to create those values 

[00:34:35] Dr. Mandeep Rai: from essentially it's a journey outward in order, in order to take that journey inward.

And it helps you figure out who you. Why you are the way you are and creates who you wish to be, or how you wish to spend your time and how you wish to see your life. It's almost like writing your eulogy. Now, so that it's written so that it says what you wish it to say, 

[00:34:58] Anne O'Neil: wow, you can't say it better than that.

And it's an outward journey that you can take on an inward journey for yourself. And like we mentioned, those values are gonna be endless for you of the dynamics and. How they're transforming you and transforming the world one person at a time. So thank you again so much for being on. It's been such an honor, and I'm so grateful you fit me and the listening community of the get busy living into your incredibly busy schedule.

[00:35:25] Dr. Mandeep Rai: It's been an absolute pleasure and I hope you'll come with me around the world as we go into our next a.

Well, thank 

[00:35:38] Anne O'Neil: you so much for listening to our conversation. If you have a GBL story in your life, share it with me on Instagram at get busy live-in underscore pod. I might just share your story on a future episode. Thank you for sharing in the good vibes and giving back and ging with us.

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